a very sore back! :-)

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"Thank you for your post,I was in a accident 4 years ago and was paralized from waist down . they said i would never walk again, so i gave up freestyle mx and started throwing shoes. Gods will and alot of people stood beside me and pushed me .today i am walking but my balance is not anything like it was. i can only feel presure and my legs give out quiet easy. One game aprox. It seems to help not having to throw as hard and keeping my balance (most of the time)as i do when playing 40 feet..Now my friends say im cheeting kidding around. but it kinda bothers me . I have a hard time accepting the facts instead of the way things use to be . THANK YOU Greg D.-- Denison TX"

Glad to help. It's not cheating. The rule's there to make it fair. You should tell your friends it bothers you. If they can't figure it out on their own that it's not cool to tease you for being paralized and having to live with the after effects than let them know.

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Join this Club and sign up on this website and let's talk about it!

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Cool isn't it! I heard it was in the magazine but haven't seen it yet. I spoke with the VIA writer before the Sept tournament. The word is getting out. - PZ

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yep. We're thinking very similarly. we'll need to share ideas. You call it the 4-Fun league, I call it the Leaner League. With numbers like 15 Million 4 Fun pitchers vs. 15,000 NHPA members the structure of the organization should actually be reversed, where the elite pitchers are a special subset of the main group. Like MLBaseball and the farm teams and little league. Check out our first tournamet video. Combo Skateboard Jam / Horseshoe Tourney. CA state champ Rick Bermingham came and said he'd never seen so many young people at a tournament. (over 200) they set up mini skate park at one end so people could skateboard btwn matches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU3d-VMT16Q&feature=player_embedded
Also check out my friend Ken Bakers East Bay Summer Series, http://www.eastbaysummerseries.com, especially his 'Rules" No. 11 in particular. He's got a good website going too.
- Peter

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"awesome thanks!"

To clarify your question about the way you are playing cancellation, ringers cancel the other players points. the other player can top your ringer with another ringer and cancel it, so (0) points. If as you said the first person throws a ringer and a point, but the 2nd player throws two points, it depends on whether the 2nd players shoes are closer. The ringer is still 3 pts, but the 2nd play can cancel out the point shoe with a closer point. also for example: 3 ringers would be 3 pts for the player who threw the double ringer. 4 ringers: both players throwing double ringers would be zero points, or 'four dead'. As Another Round said, count all games are good when you have several people wanting to play because they can be faster. You can either set the number of turns, or 'innings'. An inning is 2 shoes each player. You can set the games to 10, 15 or 20 innings..or however long you want. Or you can set a point total like 21.
Here are some definitions from the NHPA rule book. Go to www.horseshoepitching.com for all the official rules.
Cancellation Scoring – A method of play, whereby opponents’ ringers cancel each other. The same holds true for opponents’ shoes (single points) that are of an equal distance from the stake. (See RULE 6, Section A.1)
Count-all Scoring – A method of scoring where both contestants receive credit for all live shoes scored in each inning. (See RULE 6, Section A.2 and B.2)
Inning – The game is divided into innings. In singles play, each inning consists of four (4) pitched shoes; two (2) by each contestant. (See RULE 3, Section A)
BUT, the most important rule is to have fun. As long as the people playing agree on the rules before you start it doesn't matter. Leaners are 'technically' only 1 pt., but at family parties they always count as 2 pts. Also first agree on if 'slop' counts. Shoes that hit outside the pit and bounce in. - Peter

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